So since Dom 3 is being discussed

Avoraciopoctules · Post by **Avoraciopoctules** » Wed Jun 29, 2011 1:17 am

angelfromanotherpin wrote:
Korwin wrote:Should we submitt this turn with or without patch?
I assume that some people install patches reflexively, so I'll say with.

Acknowledged. Patched game, sent 2h.

angelfromanotherpin · Tue Jul 05, 2011 12:09 pm

Waiting on Mictlan.

angelfromanotherpin · Post by **angelfromanotherpin** » Thu Jul 07, 2011 1:49 am

Turn 80 is out.

Ancient History · Post by **Ancient History** » Fri Jul 08, 2011 12:33 am

The shattered, besieged remnant of the ancient R'lyehian Empire apologies to the daemon-kings Mictlan for the last couple of weak-ass efforts; consider them the last wild, frantic, uncoordinated efforts of a dying mollusc.

K · Post by K » Fri Jul 08, 2011 5:20 am

Ancient History wrote:The shattered, besieged remnant of the ancient R'lyehian Empire apologies to the daemon-kings Mictlan for the last couple of weak-ass efforts; consider them the last wild, frantic, uncoordinated efforts of a dying mollusc.

I was kind of surprised when you attacked me, especially since you are one of the few people who can see my vast armies.

Were you the one who just got a bunch of mages feebleminded trying to cast spells on me? MA Mictlan is a pretty big deal in the Astral department, so I found that odd.

Username17 · Post by **Username17** » Fri Jul 08, 2011 9:38 am

Our turn is in.

-Username17

Ancient History · Post by **Ancient History** » Fri Jul 08, 2011 10:04 am

K wrote:
Ancient History wrote:The shattered, besieged remnant of the ancient R'lyehian Empire apologies to the daemon-kings Mictlan for the last couple of weak-ass efforts; consider them the last wild, frantic, uncoordinated efforts of a dying mollusc.
I was kind of surprised when you attacked me, especially since you are one of the few people who can see my vast armies.

Were you the one who just got a bunch of mages feebleminded trying to cast spells on me? MA Mictlan is a pretty big deal in the Astral department, so I found that odd.

Well, with Ermor dying and nothing else to do, my general plan was to raid apparently empty coastal provinces, then retreat back to the sea - aqua-jungle warfare. Unfortunately, I miscalculated the reach of your armies, so you got there and squished my squiddies before the whole retreat could really get going - and then you started besieging me, which is the real beginning of the end. Because when I inherited R'lyeh, all of its armies combined would not be able to put up a decent fight against a single one of the armies engaged in the End of Ermor conflict, and the multiple earthquakes and enchantments in effect have not helped that at all.

It was a bad late-game strategy, but then I was in a bad late-game position anyway.

Avoraciopoctules · Post by **Avoraciopoctules** » Fri Jul 08, 2011 8:05 pm

2h in.

angelfromanotherpin · Sat Jul 09, 2011 11:40 pm

Waiting on Mictlan.

K · Post by K » Sun Jul 10, 2011 1:46 am

In. Fast turn this time.

Username17 · Post by **Username17** » Sun Jul 10, 2011 2:06 pm

Since the new turn is out, I think it fair to give warning to Vanheim. One Tartarian skirmishing around a castle with over a thousand undead in it does not count as you "owning" that province in any meaningful way. We have literally hundreds of soldiers bearing down on 63 right now, and if there is a tartarian speed bump in the way when we arrive then there will be one less tartarian in the world shortly thereafter.

-Pangaea

Korwin · Post by **Korwin** » Mon Jul 11, 2011 3:19 pm

I have to say, I'm a little disapointed about your so called NAP...
Fool me one, etc.
I think we can say, this NAP isnt worth the digital paper its written on...

Username17 · Post by **Username17** » Mon Jul 11, 2011 4:14 pm

Korwin wrote:I have to say, I'm a little disapointed about your so called NAP...
Fool me one, etc.
I think we can say, this NAP isnt worth the digital paper its written on...

Raiding forces that cannot possibly hold or even take the provinces they are passing through do not constitute "owned" provinces.

Ermor owns 63, not you. Pangaea is going to take it from them. We are not going to sit around for 10 turns while you maybe move an actual army into position to take it yourself.

If you wish to declare war over that, I understand, and don't hold it against you. But we are giving you fair warning that we do not consider attacking Ermor to be an act of war against Vanheim and that we will in fact do that.

Different people have different criteria for what they think is a breech of an NAP, and if for whatever reason you want to instantly dissolve it because you think that you can "claim" Ermorian provinces by raiding them with forces that cannot possibly siege them, I would not hold that against you. That seems like a completely reasonable misunderstanding.

But Pangaea will not be attacking any province we regard you as owning unless and until you attack us first.

-Username17

Korwin · Post by **Korwin** » Mon Jul 11, 2011 5:02 pm

Vanheim will not roll over and spread its legs.
Maybe if you claimed the province before I fire blasted the fort there, maybe not.

You allready took the Gath capital this way, you probably will take the next province under this excuse. So yeah, I consinder the NAP brocken.

Username17 · Post by **Username17** » Mon Jul 11, 2011 6:22 pm

Uh... yes. I might very well use you not owning a province as an excuse to invade it in the future. In fact, every province I have ever invaded has been under the "excuse" of it being a province that is not actually owned by anyone I am at peace with.

You have an "army" of one raider there. The castle is still full of Ermorians. I don't know what you think that means, but from the standpoint of Ermor being "alive" it counts as Ermor owning that province. I have an army that is literally three hundred times the size of that raiding "force" there, and I intend to take it.

There are a great many other provinces that you don't own and don't have significant armies in. I intend to take several of those as well in the next few turns. If you didn't want me to conquer areas, I suggest actually adding them to your empire or at least laying siege to the castles in them with sufficient force that it seems reasonable that you would ever be expected to actually do so.

-Username17

K · Post by K » Mon Jul 18, 2011 11:23 am

Avoraciopoctules · Post by **Avoraciopoctules** » Mon Jul 18, 2011 7:52 pm

2h file sent.

angelfromanotherpin · Thu Jul 21, 2011 12:57 am

There was a slight delay due to a mix-up. There is a new delay because gmail seems to think I'm spamming you.

angelfromanotherpin · Post by **angelfromanotherpin** » Thu Jul 21, 2011 3:11 pm

Delay over, turn 82 out.

Ancient History · Post by **Ancient History** » Thu Jul 21, 2011 10:59 pm

R'lyeh never entertained any serious thoughts of winning, but we hope to be remembered for the mayhem we caused in our final turns.

K · Post by K » Fri Jul 22, 2011 12:00 am

Ancient History wrote:R'lyeh never entertained any serious thoughts of winning, but we hope to be remembered for the mayhem we caused in our final turns.

I was kind of wondering what you were doing.

Thanks for bringing that angel onto land. I was worried that I might have to fight it fairly.

Ancient History · Post by **Ancient History** » Fri Jul 22, 2011 12:49 am

The Great Kalamari of R'lyeh strives to be as accommodating as possible.

Korwin · Post by **Korwin** » Mon Aug 08, 2011 5:43 pm

I did send my turn in, correct?

Korwin · Post by **Korwin** » Tue Aug 16, 2011 2:42 pm

How about we officially close this game?
Vanheim was pretty hurt by the Armageddon spam...

The slow turnover is droping my enthusiasm too.

angelfromanotherpin · Post by **angelfromanotherpin** » Tue Aug 16, 2011 3:27 pm

All in favor?